DAN & TAYLOR

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BREWER & FOUNDER OF GOOD FOOD JOBS

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New York City to Livingston, New York

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Abigale and Michael would be the first to tell you that their successful city to country journey involved a lot of luck, but for this tenacious couple, their dedication and tireless work ethic created their opportunities, luck had very little to do with it. Abigale and Michael had both been working in the service industry in NYC for many years and had grown accustomed to that lifestyle. They loved their lives in the city, but all the while they felt like something was missing. All it took was one trip to Maine in the summer to get them planning their escape from NYC. They immediately emailed everyone they knew to see if anyone had any leads on places to find work. As soon as a prospective cooking school job opened up, the couple left their lives in the city and set off for the great unknown. Their first few months in Belfast, they enthusiastically worked lots of odd jobs before landing at an established and respected catering company. Their ability to seamlessly manage enormous events, without showing any signs of stress or strain, instantly impressed the owner of the company. At the end of the season, the owner approached Abigale and Michael and asked if they would be interested in buying the business from her. Instead of shying away from the opportunity presented, they jumped in headfirst. In just a few years, they have become one of the most in-demand and high-end catering companies in Maine. They cater events and weddings all over New England and are booked solid in the summer wedding season. They are insanely good at managing difficult variables, like hosting a giant wedding on a tiny island with no electricity or running water. Together, they are unstoppable, getting strength and inspiration from one another. Because their summers in Maine usually fly by in a flurry of events, they love the quiet downtime of the winter months. They especially love that their life they have created for themselves in the country allows for a month-long getaway in Mexico every February, to reset and prepare themselves for the upcoming event season. A year ago, they bought a building in town, one block from their catering kitchen. Their urban-style loft would be completely unattainable in NYC but here they are able to live in a space that feels uniquely them. It isn’t a country farmhouse, like many others featured on Urban Exodus, but it proves that there are many different ways to live in the country. You don’t have to be out on farmland somewhere, you can live in-town and still be connected to the pulse of the small community you call home. (Click here to jump to their interview)

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What inspired you to move to the country? 

I think I’ve always wanted to move to the country, ever since I was little. I always had an attraction to it, especially since I went back to Cuba to visit in my teens. Most of my family is from rural areas in Cuba and I felt very at home there. During my childhood in Miami, even though we lived in a suburb, we still had chickens, rabbits, dogs and cats. There were fruit trees and my parents had a garden. In retrospect, I realized they were trying to recreate that sense of country living, but country living in the sense of working the land, not in the sense of earning your livelihood through the land, which is what they did in Cuba.

 

I think as an artist, I’ve always had that sensibility of retreat and of being away from a lot of noise to create my work. As I’ve gotten older, I can’t handle the amount of distractions that are forced upon me in the city. When the opportunity came for me and my partner to move up here I was already thinking about how cool it would be to have a quiet second home somewhere in the country. Because Florida’s landscape is somewhat monochromatic I thought maybe North Carolina because it was only a 17-hour drive. When my partner was offered the position in Bethel, I figured we would just reverse the plans, with our first home in the country and maybe the future second home would be a small apartment in a city. 

 

 

Initially what was the hardest part about making the move? What challenges came later?

In the beginning I was all starry-eyed, so not much difficulty at first. But after that honeymoon phase, I think the first thing that started to nag on me was having to drive everywhere for things. The nearest box store is 45 minutes and in the city you don’t ordinarily think about those things. I live in a resort town, so I can get sushi, but I can’t get inkjet cartridges or underwear. Also, everything is really expensive because it is a tiny small-town resort grocery store. Driving a 1.5-hour round trip to the larger stores meant that forgetting something would be a huge bother. This ultimately made me a really good list maker and I would measure everything out before heading to the store because if you end up buying the wrong thing, or what you buy doesn’t fit or doesn’t work, you have to wait until next week when you go out for errands. Needless to say, I was not used to Internet shopping before and now I do most of my shopping online.

 

I think after that, was realizing that nature is very pretty… (laughs) and it is all fine and dandy but it is a LOT of work. After a year of battling the elements, I had to make decisions of where to stop landscaping and where to let nature take over. I got a little carried away and made these mounds of work for myself and ended up not enjoying what I originally came here for. I had to take a step back and be okay with letting things just grow in. Maybe we don’t need another pond or another flowerbed or vegetable garden. In the Maine summer and spring, nature is constantly edging in on you and so you have to keep up with it. There is always something to do like clearing fallen trees and moving brush, but if you get too carried away with all of that then you forget to enjoy it. 

 

 

What surprised you most about country living? Did it meet your expectations?

Bethel is a resort town but it isn’t the quintessential super lux New England fairytale town, it is a real town and people live and work here and so I thought I was going to like the town a lot less than I did. Partly what surprised me was that I really connected with the people here. It was really the human connection that made a difference and made me feel like a member of the community. It is that human connection that I have always craved and that is how my childhood was. I grew up in a tight knit family and community. Because we were exiles we were always helping one another to survive. Camaraderie was an integral part of support system and I was reminded of that when moving here. After a short period of time in Bethel, we would go to dinner somewhere and before you knew it there were eight people sitting with you and you were pulling tables together, just like you are at someone’s house having a dinner party, but instead you are just at a neighborhood restaurant.

 

Also, I really like the rustic element of my town - and other times I hate it. Sometimes when I go and visit other cute country towns they are just a little too cute and a little too precious and there is not a sense of authenticity. On the other hand sometimes that rustic quality can be frustrating because you are like “hello the rest of the world figured this out 30 years ago” and other times it is amazing because there are these incredible people who continue to live the same way they have for generations. There is this real Maine spirit here of making it work and people are not afraid to say “go to hell” if you don’t like the way they are living. People are fiercely independent here. I think some parts of New England have lost that because they have become so urbanized and gentrified. So I appreciate it, I respect it and I admire it, but sometimes it’s frustrating. Everything has a shadow side. One example is town government, it is difficult to come up with a ruling because everyone is a friend of a friend or related, but the law should be the law. It is one big dysfunctional family and I’m happy to be a part of it. 

 

 

What were the hardest things to get used to? What do you miss the most about the city?

Sometimes you just want to go to someplace chic, dress up and feel fabulous and there is nowhere to do that here. Even though it is shallow and empty anyway, sometimes you just want to play the role and dress up to the nines and be fabulous. I’ve outgrown all my suits living here. I haven’t worn one for six years, or even a tie for that matter, except for the inauguration. 

 

Also what I miss, oddly enough, is anonymity. Luckily because it is a resort town we can go to a restaurant closer to the mountain and be more anonymous but then you end up becoming friends with everyone that works at that restaurant. There is no such thing as just a waiter in Bethel, you know their entire life, and you know their children, where they grew up and they know everything about you. It is beautiful but sometimes it can be annoying. Occasionally Mark and I will want to go out to discuss something over dinner and the walls have ears. It is like sitting in a room with your whole family trying to have a personal conversation, it just does not happen. 

 

 

Would you ever go back to an urban existence? 

I would, with a WHOLE lot of money. But I think after living here, I would always want to have an escape. Honestly the ideal set up, if you can afford it, would be to have both. Living in the country here, I don’t feel boxed in, because my work requires a lot of travel and I am able to get out for periods of time. I would like to be in a city, but I would need SPACE, so that is why I say money, because space doesn’t come cheap in a city. I would also need a city with a sense of village to it. There are cities that work that way and there are cities that don’t work that way. Ironically, I think New York is just a bunch of little villages, so that is a place I could see myself living,

 

What I wouldn’t ever go back to is a car city; I’m done with that. I’m done with traffic. Whenever I go back to Miami I am just a bag of nerves when driving. I realized that I am so tired whenever I am there and it stems from the stress of needing to drive from one place to the next. In Miami, everywhere you go takes 45 minutes of congestion and traffic. I just never want to drive ever again, unless it is through the mountains. I will drive 45 minutes to go to Home Depot but it is through the White Mountains. It is a different kind of drive, it is relaxing and you look forward to it because it is daydreaming time…until you hit a moose. 

 

 

What do you appreciate the most about life in the country?

What I love most is being surrounded by nature. I also love that you can see the merits of your hard work. A tree that you planted starts to flower. You look out and see the fountain or the garden you put in, it is very rewarding. That kind of connection to the earth is just so primordial and important.

 

But what I really really like, and what has lingered with me, is that I get to choose my distractions.  In an urban environment those sorts of distractions are chosen for you. Now, if I want to go to NYC and have a 50-minute cab ride to go three miles, I will, but I get to choose to do that. This idea that you are in control is wonderful. I can go kayaking, jogging, walk the dog, I can do whatever I want, when I want to, and nobody is ever in my way. If there is one person in front of me in line at the post office now, I usually just go back later. It is just amazing that you don’t even think about your day and there are no distractions imposed upon you, it is really really wonderful. 

 

 

What advice would you give to someone thinking of moving out of the city?

I think one important thing is, part of the grounding here, is that we had a purpose – that sense of being tethered and that was my partner’s work. It is important to have a reason for moving, a goal and a plan for your future. You should never choose a place just because it is pretty. You have to find something that is lasting, a lasting connection, because it is human nature that everything at some point gets ordinary and routine. You have to have a real sense of purpose and connection with a place because you are giving up a lot of things that you are used to. Whether that is “this is the region where my grandfather grew up” or a fascination with the geography or history of some area, something that makes you wake up everyday and say “I know why I am here.”  The lack of anchoring and distraction can leave you sort of feeling up in the air and asking yourself “what the hell am I doing here.” I have to remind myself why I am here occasionally, that we are building a life, building this property and working towards being able to afford a small place in the city for balance.

 

Also, you must develop a sense of belonging in the community because it is mind boggling, there are so many beautiful places to live, wonderful, beautiful, but why there? There are literally thousands of small towns to choose from that will surpass your expectations initially, but that won’t last without a purpose. The prettiness will fade. Also, very important, make sure you like the people. I’ve been to some gorgeous little towns that I definitely could not live in simply because I didn’t connect to the community and people living there. It is about finding the right fit with the people because that is really what lasts too, that human connection. Living in a town without any friends, where you hate everyone, isn’t going to last very long. Really get a sense of the place, inside and out, something more than “it’s pretty.”

 

 

When you go back to visit the city, what are the first three things on your to-do list?

There is an initial period of deer in the headlights when I just lock myself in my hotel room and tell myself  “I can do this,” that is the very first thing. Then I enjoy just walking around and watching the people. There are more people walking on one block in NYC than live in my town in Maine. It is amazing to see everyone interact and coexist in an environment where nothing ever slows down. Then I usually like getting dressed up and going to a nice restaurant. 

 

Also, I love riding subways and mass transportation systems, maybe that is the engineer in me. I still marvel at cities and how they have these systems that, for the most part, function in synchronicity. The miracle of NYC is not the Empire State Building, it is that you get your trash picked up twice a week. NYC is a baby city compared to Hong Kong and Shanghai, it is mind boggling that they function as well as they do. When I visit a city, if they have a museum about how it was built and runs, I always visit it. I am fascinated looking at manholes. Cities are like a living thing, with all these systems that have to work and it is amazing that they do work. We know when one little thing goes wrong what can happen and how it can completely throw off the balance. “My god, the number 2 line is down, it is the end of the world!” I have a fascination with the infrastructure, which is sort of that other layer beneath the human landscape, and how that works. 

 

 

Where do you draw your inspiration and passion from for your work?

Mostly it’s family, not just my immediate family, but also the sense of community and what that means. Of course I have written a lot about home and that all comes from being the child of exiled parents and being an immigrant myself, by 45 days. I arrived in the U.S. when I was 45 days old, so the feeling of home and belonging and what does that mean and what does that look like, is really a central part of my work. Whether that’s in a smaller autobiographical or a larger idea, I constantly walk around with the question of what makes a place home and how does that feel? The insane amount of variables that goes into the statement “this feels like home.” There is no simple answer and that is why it is a common subject in art. We are constantly searching and driven to get ourselves back to home to our Utopia, the Garden of Eden, Shangri-La, the Promised Land. That was part of the thrill of moving here, that perpetual search of finding that “right place” where you and everything comes together. That is a big question in my life and work and everything kind of centers around it. Not just physical landscapes but emotional landscapes and what goes into making a place feel like home is a very very very important question to me. 

 

 

Have you noticed a change in yourself and/or your work since moving away from the city?

I had a really bad temper in the city. It was definitely connected to my road rage and that is the reason why I had to leave a driving city. I was very short tempered because I felt that things were eating away at my time that I had no control of. I’ve noticed that I’ve learned to be calmer and more patient in all facets of my life. Even when I go back to a city now, I am not like that anymore. I have gained perspective and noticed a big behavioral change. It has eliminated so much stress from my life and really improved my overall health and well-being.

 

My work has not seen a significant change because I am a writer that writes a lot from memory. I am writing mostly about stuff that happened many years ago. That being said, I have some new poems about Maine, because the experiences of this transition have inspired me. Before, I never wrote from the immediate, I typically have this distance of memory in my work; I let things ferment for a long time, so I have noticed that change. 

 

 

Walk us through a typical day in your country existence? How does it compare to the day to day in the city?

I am privileged because I haven’t had an office job here, or even a place that I have to report to everyday, but that is kind of a double-edged sword because I could write a poem or I could sweep behind the refrigerator just because I can. I can move all the furniture if I want to or play with the cats. I had to impose my own sort of routine and try to parcel my day, because as an engineer, I need that schedule. I am night owl and usually start writing at about 10pm. So I usually wake up on the later side, like 9-10am and it is all about coffee for about two hours. Then I spend time catching up on emails, and then I take the dog for a walk and go into town to do my errands. In Miami my errands would have taken five hours, here it takes about an hour. I go to town and get my mail and the post office is always sort of a social scene. Then I go to the grocery store across the street, my car is still in the same place, see the same cashier “Hi Charlie, how are you doing?” Then I come home and usually I’ll have lunch with my dog Joey. After lunch I will work for 3-5 hours and then I take a nap. You can work more in the country, because there is no outside distraction and you never really get stressed out, so it is odd that you have to remind yourself to stop, because otherwise you will just keep on working and working and working. It took until year two to realize that. I had to force myself to stop working and take time to sit and watch the sunset. It is an interesting irony because you get wrapped up in work no matter where you go, so that is another lesson that I had to learn, I try to take some time in the afternoon to walk, nap or sit and look at the mountains. After that, I go to the gym, make dinner and then I finally start writing. I write at night mostly, I can’t during the day. In some ways I have come full circle, by creating structure to my days in the country so I can leave time in the evenings and weekends to enjoy my environment and not be constantly working. 

 

 

Are there things that you are able to do here that you wouldn’t have dared to try before moving from the city?

I’m surprised at how dirty I can get (laughs). When I get into working on the pond of the creek, I will be covered in mud from head to toe, it is like being a little kid again and I forgot all about that. At first I would just kneel down and before I knew it, I would be waist deep in the creek, pulling weeds, hauling rocks. There is just no opportunity to do that in a city, it just doesn’t happen. I have become much more tough, really getting into these laborious tasks and I didn’t think I would like that part of country living. 

 

 

Do you have a specific space or place that helps you feel inspired? 

I love meditative walks and by my house there are plenty of flat trails, not like hiking, I don’t find hiking as meditative. I sing, say poems out loud and lose myself in the woods. My mind gets refreshed on these walks. There is also one corner on the deck on the side of my house with a 270-degree view and I could just sit there for hours drinking coffee. Surprisingly a lot of the places that I thought would be relaxing aren’t; it does surprise you what you end up being drawn to. 

 

 

What are some common misperceptions about life in the country? What do you want people to know/understand about life in small communities? 

One very important thing, and I think it is particular to Maine, is that we tend to think of the country in the abstract. That everybody is just baking blueberry pies and hanging out…bullshit…people are working hard and living, sometimes scratching a living. You are the new kid on the block and this is not your town. There were people here and on this land hundreds of years before you decided to show up in your SUV – I am speaking to myself – and you need to realize that you are moving to a place that is, and has been, way before you got there. You need to respect that, partially because that is the courteous thing to do and also because that is how you will eventually become part of the town. I think that some places turn into those misrepresentations and that is why some New England towns feel a little too precious – the New York Times and chocolate croissants every morning - come on! That is not living in the country. It just depends on which town you go to but generally there is this over-romanticizing or over-simplification of the people and the place. You need to realize that there are, just like any place else, nice people, horrible people, gossipy people and private people. A small town is a microcosm of an urban environment and don’t one-dimensionalize it because it's much bigger than you think. 

 

 

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